Comments on: Anatomy Of a Losing Argument: Young Jeezy Come On Down! http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/ Sponsored by the Black hand side, Fantasia's English teacher and Frederick Douglass' hairstylist Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:11:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Dr Hoe http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-14744 Dr Hoe Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:11:19 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-14744 Take everything ignorant, mysogynistic, callous, shallow, and materialistic about rap, and stick it in an illiterate, moronic package, and you'll have Young Jeezy, the sad personification of EVERYTHING wrong with Hip-Hop. Take everything ignorant, mysogynistic, callous, shallow, and materialistic about rap, and stick it in an illiterate, moronic package, and you’ll have Young Jeezy, the sad personification of EVERYTHING wrong with Hip-Hop.

]]> By: larrybello nima ghana http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-5094 larrybello nima ghana Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:09:23 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-5094 Young Jeezy needs to shut his 5th grade educated ass the fuck up. Who gives a shut if Nas is "in the streets" or has friends in the feds?!?!? That is coon sh*t!!!! Why would your crack baby ass try to brag about that. Jeezy is everything that is wrong with hip hop. Nas brought the streets of QB to the world like none other. Allow a man to grow. WE NEED GROWN MEN IN HIP HOP.He can't beef with Nas but rather beef with Nas's album title. Young Jeezy needs to shut his 5th grade educated ass the fuck up. Who gives a shut if Nas is “in the streets” or has friends in the feds?!?!? That is coon sh*t!!!! Why would your crack baby ass try to brag about that. Jeezy is everything that is wrong with hip hop.
Nas brought the streets of QB to the world like none other. Allow a man to grow. WE NEED GROWN MEN IN HIP HOP.He can’t beef with Nas but rather beef with Nas’s album title.

]]> By: evenwhenilie http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3563 evenwhenilie Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:50:49 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3563 .......young jeezy is just butt, period. he has no flows, no rhymes, no intelligence, no respect, no grace, no skillz, and like school on a sunday......he has no class... …….young jeezy is just butt, period. he has no flows, no rhymes, no intelligence, no respect, no grace, no skillz, and like school on a sunday……he has no class…

]]> By: Zay http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3384 Zay Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:15:08 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3384 I have been around Hip Hop for a while myself..I was raised on alot of Gospel and RnB..I remember being 9 or ten listening to George Michael and Michael jackson and hearing 1 rap song on the top 40..I had heard songs like supersonic and I need love and I liked the concept of songs with feeling...Hip Hop has changed drastically as it should...I would not be listening to NWA or anything that came out back in the day right now..Only serves as a memory ..I remember kid and play and Fresh prince was the hottest s...going..I copied the lifestyle High top fades, lines in the eyebrow and all but with time comes change. I always looked at hip hop as an art form, a way to express ur self to a beat and as a producer now I still love hip hop..just like man evolved from walking the deserts of Jesus' time and riding camels to driving bentlys and flying leers. Hip Hop is not dead it just produced a son....Who will in turn produce another seed... I have been around Hip Hop for a while myself..I was raised on alot of Gospel and RnB..I remember being 9 or ten listening to George Michael and Michael jackson and hearing 1 rap song on the top 40..I had heard songs like supersonic and I need love and I liked the concept of songs with feeling…Hip Hop has changed drastically as it should…I would not be listening to NWA or anything that came out back in the day right now..Only serves as a memory ..I remember kid and play and Fresh prince was the hottest s…going..I copied the lifestyle High top fades, lines in the eyebrow and all but with time comes change. I always looked at hip hop as an art form, a way to express ur self to a beat and as a producer now I still love hip hop..just like man evolved from walking the deserts of Jesus’ time and riding camels to driving bentlys and flying leers. Hip Hop is not dead it just produced a son….Who will in turn produce another seed…

]]> By: Dr. Strangejazz http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3344 Dr. Strangejazz Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:51:48 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3344 @UKNOW "Hip Hip is dead. Rap is in full effect." It hurts cause it's true. @UKNOW

“Hip Hip is dead. Rap is in full effect.”

It hurts cause it’s true.

]]> By: UKNOW http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3343 UKNOW Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:30:42 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3343 Hip Hip is dead. Rap is in full effect. Hip Hip is dead. Rap is in full effect.

]]> By: Veep http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3342 Veep Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:44:29 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3342 Sigh...... Hip Hop is not dead. Its music. People die. Instead of debating about what makes hip hop, we should be debating things that really matter. I heard the debate between Monie & Jeezy and I have to side with Monie, because she was the only person in the room that actually debated like an adult. For Jeezy to say, that someone aint in the streets, and never "busted no guns" - that they dont know hip hop, is absurd. In a room full of intelligent people he would be invisible. He would have no point, nothing interesting to say. If you have EVER actually busted your guns and sold drugs, please tell me what is it to be proud of? So you need to be a fricking violent criminal to make music, cuz thats what thugs do? I'm confused.I thought thugs robbed and killed people for a living?! So many rappers contradict themselves and our kids dont know the difference. If you are selling drugs and its such a lucrative gig, then why make music. If the ghetto is no nice, why you wanna leave? I digress. My point is simple, I have never heard any white artist arguing over who's rock n roll is best, or whose city is the best. People, its only music. Its popular, it sells and the world loves it. Isnt that enough? Honestly, where will "YOUNG( aint nothing young about him) Jeezy be in 10 years? ummm. yeah. Sigh……
Hip Hop is not dead. Its music. People die. Instead of debating about what makes hip hop, we should be debating things that really matter. I heard the debate between Monie & Jeezy and I have to side with Monie, because she was the only person in the room that actually debated like an adult. For Jeezy to say, that someone aint in the streets, and never “busted no guns” - that they dont know hip hop, is absurd. In a room full of intelligent people he would be invisible. He would have no point, nothing interesting to say. If you have EVER actually busted your guns and sold drugs, please tell me what is it to be proud of? So you need to be a fricking violent criminal to make music, cuz thats what thugs do? I’m confused.I thought thugs robbed and killed people for a living?! So many rappers contradict themselves and our kids dont know the difference. If you are selling drugs and its such a lucrative gig, then why make music. If the ghetto is no nice, why you wanna leave? I digress. My point is simple, I have never heard any white artist arguing over who’s rock n roll is best, or whose city is the best. People, its only music. Its popular, it sells and the world loves it. Isnt that enough? Honestly, where will “YOUNG( aint nothing young about him) Jeezy be in 10 years? ummm. yeah.

]]> By: Japan http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3341 Japan Tue, 12 Dec 2006 01:16:21 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3341 I PERSONALLY agree with Monnie that Hip Hop is dead! Jeezy despite the fact that I LOVED his first album sounded REAL DUMB!!!! He was wrong first of all he didn't hear her out, then he took it to another level and got all in his feelings like a little bitch. If numbers so called speaks for it's self, then the way he was going on he should have just been quite and let her talk! But it is not all about numbers! Monnie should know something about hip hop being dead being that she was a pioneer of it! He had the nerve to ask her where she is from? Your in this LIFSTYLE called Hip Hop expressing your feelings and you don't know the HISTORY of it, who was in it, what they did and where they came from? How you living something you know nothing about? You couldn't talk to Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks about what your doing for human rights like you know so much with out offending them. So why would you dare do the same to Monnie Love? She helped open the doors for unskilled rappers like jeezy to be successfull in the game doing whatever it is he do best. And to talk to her with the level of disrespect shows his immaturity and ignorance. Go back to the streets Jeezy your ass is DUMB! What you should do is make up a name for your sound and your way of life and stick with that instead of trying to be accepted in a society known as Hip Hop. You don't know nothing about it and they don't want nothing to do with your ignorance so move on! I PERSONALLY agree with Monnie that Hip Hop is dead! Jeezy despite the fact that I LOVED his first album sounded REAL DUMB!!!! He was wrong first of all he didn’t hear her out, then he took it to another level and got all in his feelings like a little bitch. If numbers so called speaks for it’s self, then the way he was going on he should have just been quite and let her talk! But it is not all about numbers! Monnie should know something about hip hop being dead being that she was a pioneer of it! He had the nerve to ask her where she is from? Your in this LIFSTYLE called Hip Hop expressing your feelings and you don’t know the HISTORY of it, who was in it, what they did and where they came from? How you living something you know nothing about? You couldn’t talk to Martin Luther King or Rosa Parks about what your doing for human rights like you know so much with out offending them. So why would you dare do the same to Monnie Love? She helped open the doors for unskilled rappers like jeezy to be successfull in the game doing whatever it is he do best. And to talk to her with the level of disrespect shows his immaturity and ignorance. Go back to the streets Jeezy your ass is DUMB! What you should do is make up a name for your sound and your way of life and stick with that instead of trying to be accepted in a society known as Hip Hop. You don’t know nothing about it and they don’t want nothing to do with your ignorance so move on!

]]> By: builtfromwax http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3340 builtfromwax Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:12:44 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3340 Jeezy sounded stupid and defensive! clearly he never joined the debate team. Monie Love's perspective was biased as well b'cuz there's NEVER been a perfect balance of "positive/negative, everybody eat from the same table, all inclusive hip-hop industry"! if that were the case her career would've lasted much longer than 1 album...or any female rapper for that matter. side note: why is it that Lil' Kim is the ONLY female rapper to have 3 certified platinum albums? y'know...this same argument was discussed more than 12 years ago! although Common didn't say "Hip-Hop Is Dead", he did say he ain't love H.E.R no mo'. Ice Cube took issue with that cuz he said Common dissed the West! when rap 1st started being recorded on records, A LOT of the pioneers probably never sold as much as 1/100th as the Sugar Hill Gang - three dudes from the street who Sylvia Robinson just happen to throw together! split hairs all u want, but when's the last time anybody been to a jam in the park or saw dudes rhymin' on a street corner? anybody ever tag a wall or train? when's the last time u broke down a cardboard box and spun on your head? rap music is the last and most prominent remnant of hip-hop culture. its also the most lucrative. when money's involved...it changes everything! Jeezy sounded stupid and defensive! clearly he never joined the debate team. Monie Love’s perspective was biased as well b’cuz there’s NEVER been a perfect balance of “positive/negative, everybody eat from the same table, all inclusive hip-hop industry”!

if that were the case her career would’ve lasted much longer than 1 album…or any female rapper for that matter.

side note: why is it that Lil’ Kim is the ONLY female rapper to have 3 certified platinum albums?

y’know…this same argument was discussed more than 12 years ago! although Common didn’t say “Hip-Hop Is Dead”, he did say he ain’t love H.E.R no mo’.

Ice Cube took issue with that cuz he said Common dissed the West!

when rap 1st started being recorded on records, A LOT of the pioneers probably never sold as much as 1/100th as the Sugar Hill Gang - three dudes from the street who Sylvia Robinson just happen to throw together!

split hairs all u want, but when’s the last time anybody been to a jam in the park or saw dudes rhymin’ on a street corner? anybody ever tag a wall or train? when’s the last time u broke down a cardboard box and spun on your head?

rap music is the last and most prominent remnant of hip-hop culture. its also the most lucrative. when money’s involved…it changes everything!

]]> By: Sister Toldja http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3339 Sister Toldja Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:37:24 +0000 http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/12/08/anatomy-of-a-losing-argument-young-jeezy-come-on-down/#comment-3339 Most Hip-Hop sucks, and has for a looooong time. I don't think the overall state of Hip-Hop has been good since 1995-ish. That's when the "inclusion" started to turn. And, honestly, I don't want all the rappers to eat at the table. I want the D-Boys and coke peddlers to eat outside.....or, better yet, starve to death. And I don't care how well they rap or not. It bothers me that we argue quality when it comes to Hip-Hop when we really need to focus on content, content, content. At this point, with where we are in the world, I am far less concerened with who's spitting the best lyrics because most of the rappers call women bitches and hoes (how do I look jamming to that?), big-ticket purchases (wow, can't relate to the thought of purchasing a Maybach), seling drugs (again, how do I look supporting that?)....cautionary tales have given way to celebration. Then theres crap like the last few Black Eyed Peas records and that trash Fergie makes: Hip-Pop. But you tripping about Lupe. His flows are crazy. Most Hip-Hop sucks, and has for a looooong time. I don’t think the overall state of Hip-Hop has been good since 1995-ish. That’s when the “inclusion” started to turn. And, honestly, I don’t want all the rappers to eat at the table. I want the D-Boys and coke peddlers to eat outside…..or, better yet, starve to death. And I don’t care how well they rap or not. It bothers me that we argue quality when it comes to Hip-Hop when we really need to focus on content, content, content. At this point, with where we are in the world, I am far less concerened with who’s spitting the best lyrics because most of the rappers call women bitches and hoes (how do I look jamming to that?), big-ticket purchases (wow, can’t relate to the thought of purchasing a Maybach), seling drugs (again, how do I look supporting that?)….cautionary tales have given way to celebration. Then theres crap like the last few Black Eyed Peas records and that trash Fergie makes: Hip-Pop.

But you tripping about Lupe. His flows are crazy.

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