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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/11/29/ive-been-thinking-again/#comment-3271</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Bruthacode's first 2 statements, (not the third cuz I can't STAND the "n" word, but that's just me).  And Homiewood's statements were on-point as well.  

Only thing I can add is that pretty much all this "Kramer incident" did for me is remind me that some "others" are still sooo clueless.  As if the racist tirade wasn't enough, you top it with apologies in interviews with the so-called "representatives" of the Black community.  Gimme a break.  *Newsflash any caucasions within the sound of my voice (keyboard, lol)*  If ever you find yourself on the outs with Black folks, please don't continue to INSULT them by running to the same old tired "I-find-racism-for-a-living" crew ala JJ and AlSharp.  Kay?  Kay...  Geez...

Later Panama.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Bruthacode&#8217;s first 2 statements, (not the third cuz I can&#8217;t STAND the &#8220;n&#8221; word, but that&#8217;s just me).  And Homiewood&#8217;s statements were on-point as well.  </p>
<p>Only thing I can add is that pretty much all this &#8220;Kramer incident&#8221; did for me is remind me that some &#8220;others&#8221; are still sooo clueless.  As if the racist tirade wasn&#8217;t enough, you top it with apologies in interviews with the so-called &#8220;representatives&#8221; of the Black community.  Gimme a break.  *Newsflash any caucasions within the sound of my voice (keyboard, lol)*  If ever you find yourself on the outs with Black folks, please don&#8217;t continue to INSULT them by running to the same old tired &#8220;I-find-racism-for-a-living&#8221; crew ala JJ and AlSharp.  Kay?  Kay&#8230;  Geez&#8230;</p>
<p>Later Panama.</p>
<p>T</p>
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		<title>By: thehomiewood</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/11/29/ive-been-thinking-again/#comment-3270</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know why we are so intent on playing this gotcha game with white folks.  We know that a good many of them are racist and dont care for blacks.  Shit is the same as it was back to eternity.  I heard a fellow on the Michael Eric Dyson radio show call in and say that 'blacks who dont react to this Michael Richards incident are sellouts and cowards.'  Its just that type of reactionary attitude that perplexes me.  A comic using language to degrade blacks is and should be so far down the list of concerns to our community that it barely should have made the last segment on the late night evening news.  I mean what would happen if black people completely stopped reacting to the word nigger when uttered by a non black.  I think that would have a greater effect than this empty attempt to erradicate the word altogether.  This whole situation and the fallout is very disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know why we are so intent on playing this gotcha game with white folks.  We know that a good many of them are racist and dont care for blacks.  Shit is the same as it was back to eternity.  I heard a fellow on the Michael Eric Dyson radio show call in and say that &#8216;blacks who dont react to this Michael Richards incident are sellouts and cowards.&#8217;  Its just that type of reactionary attitude that perplexes me.  A comic using language to degrade blacks is and should be so far down the list of concerns to our community that it barely should have made the last segment on the late night evening news.  I mean what would happen if black people completely stopped reacting to the word nigger when uttered by a non black.  I think that would have a greater effect than this empty attempt to erradicate the word altogether.  This whole situation and the fallout is very disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: Brutha Code</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/11/29/ive-been-thinking-again/#comment-3269</link>
		<dc:creator>Brutha Code</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three things to say here:

1) The NAACP is a facade. A shell of what it could be. Reactive and not proactive at all. Plus, they still call themselves "Colored".... they need to just sit the fukks down.

2) To me, the confederate flag is like the union jack... just a part of history. Prejudice folks would still be prejudiced without the flag. If racists adopted jolly ranchers as their candy of choice, I'd still get me a nickel cherry at the drug store. Symbols are only as powerful and the power we allow them to have over us.

3) I've said it before, but nigga is like my mom-bitch hypothesis. When a teenager gets mad at his mom and calls her a bitch, no big deal. But if someone else calls his mom a bitch, he'll bust that ass. Same with Black folks and nigga... we can use it because it's OUR black people. Other folks can't without arising ire.

And that's my two cents, my nigga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three things to say here:</p>
<p>1) The NAACP is a facade. A shell of what it could be. Reactive and not proactive at all. Plus, they still call themselves &#8220;Colored&#8221;&#8230;. they need to just sit the fukks down.</p>
<p>2) To me, the confederate flag is like the union jack&#8230; just a part of history. Prejudice folks would still be prejudiced without the flag. If racists adopted jolly ranchers as their candy of choice, I&#8217;d still get me a nickel cherry at the drug store. Symbols are only as powerful and the power we allow them to have over us.</p>
<p>3) I&#8217;ve said it before, but nigga is like my mom-bitch hypothesis. When a teenager gets mad at his mom and calls her a bitch, no big deal. But if someone else calls his mom a bitch, he&#8217;ll bust that ass. Same with Black folks and nigga&#8230; we can use it because it&#8217;s OUR black people. Other folks can&#8217;t without arising ire.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s my two cents, my nigga.</p>
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		<title>By: builtfromwax</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/11/29/ive-been-thinking-again/#comment-3268</link>
		<dc:creator>builtfromwax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...and defacing that flag does just that. I can imagine me walking around in Alabama with my own t-shirt version of that flag. Hell, I might get beat down because of it.

Guess that would be what it feels like for a white man to call a Black man a nigger...because white rednecks take that flag seriously."

that's what i disagree with...its not the same thing. its one thing to take something valued and demean it. its totally different when something was intended to demean and continues to do so hundreds of years later.

although i do agree u'd get that ass beat caught in the wrong part of Dixie with a defaced version of their beloved flag! u'd definitely make 'em angry, but u don't dehumanize them by doing.

regardless of what it represents to black folks, white folks LOVE the damn flag! defacing it is like tearing up a picture of the Pope or your grandma.

but nobody loves a nigger...not even black people.

whitey, redneck, PWT or cracker just doesn't have the same impact on white folks as nigger does on black folks. hell, Matt Lauer said "cracker" on the Today show when he interviewed the heckler for his response.

hmmm...wonder how that got pass the network censors, but we can't see Janet Jackson's pierced nipple?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;and defacing that flag does just that. I can imagine me walking around in Alabama with my own t-shirt version of that flag. Hell, I might get beat down because of it.</p>
<p>Guess that would be what it feels like for a white man to call a Black man a nigger&#8230;because white rednecks take that flag seriously.&#8221;</p>
<p>that&#8217;s what i disagree with&#8230;its not the same thing. its one thing to take something valued and demean it. its totally different when something was intended to demean and continues to do so hundreds of years later.</p>
<p>although i do agree u&#8217;d get that ass beat caught in the wrong part of Dixie with a defaced version of their beloved flag! u&#8217;d definitely make &#8216;em angry, but u don&#8217;t dehumanize them by doing.</p>
<p>regardless of what it represents to black folks, white folks LOVE the damn flag! defacing it is like tearing up a picture of the Pope or your grandma.</p>
<p>but nobody loves a nigger&#8230;not even black people.</p>
<p>whitey, redneck, PWT or cracker just doesn&#8217;t have the same impact on white folks as nigger does on black folks. hell, Matt Lauer said &#8220;cracker&#8221; on the Today show when he interviewed the heckler for his response.</p>
<p>hmmm&#8230;wonder how that got pass the network censors, but we can&#8217;t see Janet Jackson&#8217;s pierced nipple?</p>
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		<title>By: NinaMM</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 04:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh.

Paul Mooney wants to retire "nigger" from his repertoire now, huh?  After he's made his career and fortune off of it's use?  How black of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh.</p>
<p>Paul Mooney wants to retire &#8220;nigger&#8221; from his repertoire now, huh?  After he&#8217;s made his career and fortune off of it&#8217;s use?  How black of him.</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/11/29/ive-been-thinking-again/#comment-3266</link>
		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I even start to comment on the entry: WHY is dyoung always bloggin or commenting about eating or choking on his soup????? I'mma have to talk to him about this, offline. 

Does your mama (the one in Detroit) know you say the N word? 

I too use the n word all the time, usually around my friends, but not even all my friends, just certain ones. I always turn it off at work, and when I'm around white folks. I could technically eliminate it from my vocab, but honestly I can't think of another word to express the same sentiment in which I use it (which is not the same sentiment that white people use(d) it). When I say it, it isn't in the same context all the time either, so there's no blanket replacement word (ninja helps....eh but then that starts to sound  ridiculous, and honestly its damn near the same thing anyway, so we're back at square one). I could come up with a list of synonyms for whatever contexts I'd use it in....but it still doesn't feel the same. lol. Why do I feel like this is the only word in my vocabularly that has this problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before I even start to comment on the entry: WHY is dyoung always bloggin or commenting about eating or choking on his soup????? I&#8217;mma have to talk to him about this, offline. </p>
<p>Does your mama (the one in Detroit) know you say the N word? </p>
<p>I too use the n word all the time, usually around my friends, but not even all my friends, just certain ones. I always turn it off at work, and when I&#8217;m around white folks. I could technically eliminate it from my vocab, but honestly I can&#8217;t think of another word to express the same sentiment in which I use it (which is not the same sentiment that white people use(d) it). When I say it, it isn&#8217;t in the same context all the time either, so there&#8217;s no blanket replacement word (ninja helps&#8230;.eh but then that starts to sound  ridiculous, and honestly its damn near the same thing anyway, so we&#8217;re back at square one). I could come up with a list of synonyms for whatever contexts I&#8217;d use it in&#8230;.but it still doesn&#8217;t feel the same. lol. Why do I feel like this is the only word in my vocabularly that has this problem?</p>
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		<title>By: panama</title>
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		<dc:creator>panama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@builtfromwax:  The Confederate flag may not have originally been intended to demean Black people (as I think you meant to say) but in an indirect way it does.  It's a symbol of the Old South, the pre-Civil War South as has it has been adopted by many anti-Black groups.  And as the rampant use of the word nigger teaches us, what something means today is sometimes as important, if not more, than what it means historically.

Growing up down South, many a redneck sports that flag (though I called it the Confederate flag, its really not, its the Dixie flag or Rebel flag but the confederate flag doesnt exactly look like that) as a symbol of how things used to be...namely when the nigras weren't running free.  

Sure, some people see it as a mark of Southern pride and heritage, but that Southern pride and heritage is largely tied into a history where Black people were much maligned.  And they liked it that way.  Basically, it's a symbol of where Kramer's comments wouldn't have meant much of shit to anybody b/c they're the norm...even today in some places.

And also, how can it be a real source of Southern pride if everybody in the South isn't captured in the thoughts behind it?


@dyoung:  I do think we spend too much time talking about this kind of shit.  It always amazes me how it comes up when we have much bigger problems...I guess we kind of accept the other shit as the status quo and feel that we can do something about this...I guess...

@Suga&#38;Spice:  Glad I could be insightful even in the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@builtfromwax:  The Confederate flag may not have originally been intended to demean Black people (as I think you meant to say) but in an indirect way it does.  It&#8217;s a symbol of the Old South, the pre-Civil War South as has it has been adopted by many anti-Black groups.  And as the rampant use of the word nigger teaches us, what something means today is sometimes as important, if not more, than what it means historically.</p>
<p>Growing up down South, many a redneck sports that flag (though I called it the Confederate flag, its really not, its the Dixie flag or Rebel flag but the confederate flag doesnt exactly look like that) as a symbol of how things used to be&#8230;namely when the nigras weren&#8217;t running free.  </p>
<p>Sure, some people see it as a mark of Southern pride and heritage, but that Southern pride and heritage is largely tied into a history where Black people were much maligned.  And they liked it that way.  Basically, it&#8217;s a symbol of where Kramer&#8217;s comments wouldn&#8217;t have meant much of shit to anybody b/c they&#8217;re the norm&#8230;even today in some places.</p>
<p>And also, how can it be a real source of Southern pride if everybody in the South isn&#8217;t captured in the thoughts behind it?</p>
<p>@dyoung:  I do think we spend too much time talking about this kind of shit.  It always amazes me how it comes up when we have much bigger problems&#8230;I guess we kind of accept the other shit as the status quo and feel that we can do something about this&#8230;I guess&#8230;</p>
<p>@Suga&amp;Spice:  Glad I could be insightful even in the least.</p>
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		<title>By: dyoung</title>
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		<dc:creator>dyoung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to reply earlier, but had to leave for a second after almost choking on my soup whille reading the paul mooney comment. (Also, for anyone who's interested in this type of stuff, you should watch the clip of him on youtube, being interviewed about kkkramer. Its classic mooney)

ANYWAY, I really think the whole "n-word" issue is a non-issue, especially when there's literally thousands of dookies and namonds and michaels and randys (sorry for the wire references for non-wire viewers. Non-wire viewers shouldnt be allowed to speak publicly anyway.) running around aimlessly in our cities and shit. It just seems like we spend too much of our time and resources and effort talking about shit like this (myself included)

Although I've joked and blogged about it, I could really care less about what some washed up e-list comedian spouts on stage, as long as i hafta vest up to buy ice cream at 10pm. He could be standing on my desk right now, pointing and screaming "champ, you're a nigger and you have nigger parents" and all I'd do is call maintenance for a new desk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to reply earlier, but had to leave for a second after almost choking on my soup whille reading the paul mooney comment. (Also, for anyone who&#8217;s interested in this type of stuff, you should watch the clip of him on youtube, being interviewed about kkkramer. Its classic mooney)</p>
<p>ANYWAY, I really think the whole &#8220;n-word&#8221; issue is a non-issue, especially when there&#8217;s literally thousands of dookies and namonds and michaels and randys (sorry for the wire references for non-wire viewers. Non-wire viewers shouldnt be allowed to speak publicly anyway.) running around aimlessly in our cities and shit. It just seems like we spend too much of our time and resources and effort talking about shit like this (myself included)</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;ve joked and blogged about it, I could really care less about what some washed up e-list comedian spouts on stage, as long as i hafta vest up to buy ice cream at 10pm. He could be standing on my desk right now, pointing and screaming &#8220;champ, you&#8217;re a nigger and you have nigger parents&#8221; and all I&#8217;d do is call maintenance for a new desk</p>
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		<title>By: builtfromwax</title>
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		<dc:creator>builtfromwax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Mooney not saying "nigger" is like Larry the Cable Guy not saying "Git'er Dun!"

the only issue i take with the Confederate flag analogy is that it never was created to demean the South. its always been a source of Southern pride. nigger was always intended to belittle black folk as less than white folk or anything else that walked on two or four legs.

even po' white trash try to hold their heads high by sayin', "i maybe poor and uneducated, but i ain't a nigger!"

it really doesn't matter what people call u...its what u choose to answer to that can define u.

Michael Richards got it right...the heckler is a nigger. cuz what ain't bein' said is that the heckler started some shit that he ain't finish and got offended when he was called on it.

most of us know, that's a bitch nigger move!

most of us never, knew what Richards was like outside of playin' Kramer. most of us didn't care either...

...why start now?

Seinfeld Season 7 DVD...in stores now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Mooney not saying &#8220;nigger&#8221; is like Larry the Cable Guy not saying &#8220;Git&#8217;er Dun!&#8221;</p>
<p>the only issue i take with the Confederate flag analogy is that it never was created to demean the South. its always been a source of Southern pride. nigger was always intended to belittle black folk as less than white folk or anything else that walked on two or four legs.</p>
<p>even po&#8217; white trash try to hold their heads high by sayin&#8217;, &#8220;i maybe poor and uneducated, but i ain&#8217;t a nigger!&#8221;</p>
<p>it really doesn&#8217;t matter what people call u&#8230;its what u choose to answer to that can define u.</p>
<p>Michael Richards got it right&#8230;the heckler is a nigger. cuz what ain&#8217;t bein&#8217; said is that the heckler started some shit that he ain&#8217;t finish and got offended when he was called on it.</p>
<p>most of us know, that&#8217;s a bitch nigger move!</p>
<p>most of us never, knew what Richards was like outside of playin&#8217; Kramer. most of us didn&#8217;t care either&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;why start now?</p>
<p>Seinfeld Season 7 DVD&#8230;in stores now!</p>
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		<title>By: Suga&#38;Spice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suga&#38;Spice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 20:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Panama, this was really a good entry. I never really thought about the reactiveness of our civil rights organizations. Very good point. I guess we have been pacified for so long that they tend to focus on keeping what we have 'gained' vs. continuing to move forward. 

Food for though on that one, thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Panama, this was really a good entry. I never really thought about the reactiveness of our civil rights organizations. Very good point. I guess we have been pacified for so long that they tend to focus on keeping what we have &#8216;gained&#8217; vs. continuing to move forward. </p>
<p>Food for though on that one, thanks!</p>
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