Meet Me At The ‘House…It’s Going Down

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One of my favorite folks from Atlanta, T, dropped off this little article in my comments section this morning courtesy of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and the fine folks at Black Enterprise Magazine:

Morehouse loses top spot in ranking

Not only did Morehouse, my beloved alma mater and locale of the best four years of my life, lose its number one spot…

…it tumbled down to the #45 slot.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Now I know that a lot of people out there are talking reckless, and you can bet your bottom dollar people are talking shit since folks love to knock us Morehouse fellas down a peg or two from our self-made pedestal in the Black community and HBCU universe.

Every time these bogus rankings come out (and I’ll get to why their bogus in a minute) every body who went to an HBCU loves to toss around their ranking or tell Morehouse that we ain’t shit. It’s a standard ritual. I remember when I was at Morehouse and Spelman overtook us for the #1 slot all the mudslinging that was going back and forth between the ‘House and the fine upstanding women at Spelman.

But alas, these rankings really don’t amount to shit. They didn’t amount to shit when Morehouse was ranked number one and they don’t amount to shit now.

And the crowd said…”jigga what?? jigga who??”

“Panama, what you talking about Willis?”

First of all, let’s discuss this rumble (young man rumble) from the top slot all the way down to the 45 slot. Do you mind? Then let us tally ho..

The Atlanta college, ranked No. 1 for the past two of the biennial rankings, fell to No. 45 on the latest list, in part, the magazine said, because of its comparatively low graduation rates.

This year, the magazine surveyed more than 500 African-American education professionals who rated the schools based on their black student graduation rates, academic and social environments, total black undergraduate enrollment, percentage of black undergrads and 2004 ranking.

And according to the article and an editor for Black Enterprise Magazine, graduation rates were given the highest priority.

Everybody here can read right? Good. Then let’s discuss this.

In 2004, Morehouse was ranked as the #1 best college for African-Americans. Which means that in 2004, all of the criteria that were used placed Morehouse squarely at the top. Including in 2004, an atrocious graduation rate.

Let me tell you all a little something about Morehouse. Our graduation rate blows chunks. I remember reading somewhere a long time ago where our 6-year graduation rate was only at like 66%. A whole 2/3 of all black men that came into Morehouse were actually going to graduate in 6-years. Me and my boys graduated in 4 which makes us something like some wunderkinds or something. Either way, that news isn’t exactly groundbreaking, but its a fact about Morehouse.

A sizeable percentage of men that show up aren’t going to graduate. It’s the case now and it was the case back then.

…Morehouse’s graduation rate fell from 56 percent to 49 percent in the time frame the magazine used to determine rankings…

I’m not exactly sure if that’s the 4-year rate or if that’s the 6-year rate, either way it does blow. However, you’re telling me that in 2004, that shitty rate was enough to get us into the #1 slot, but 2 years later it drops 7 points and it causes you a 44 spot slide? Granted, they said that graduation rates got higher priority, but even still, assuming everything else stayed the same (faulty assumption but without them saying we suck other places I have nothing to go on…they focused on graduation rates, not me, the fuckers), and given all of the improvements Morehouse has made in every other area from their capital plans to academic programs, the professionals surveyed must have only looked at graduation rates.

Hell, it was enough to drop Spelman, a school that even makes it into the US News and World Reports for liberal arts colleges, ranking to #5.

Dude, it’s Spelman. They graduate. And they still get dropped to #5. They were #3 in 2004. Do you really think I believe that?

Hell Clark-Atlanta University was #10 in 2004…now?? Ghost like Patrick Swayze.

But okay, according to those surveyed, Morehouse fuckin’ sucks. Okay…I can live with that.

Then again…it’s a survey. Granted, it’s one that people place a lot of stock in. Not I.

For one…it’s a damn survey. They asked 500 ninja’s of professional stature to rate the schools and assumingly gave them the main criteria to focus upon. According to the 2003 (released in 2004) rankings, they used 1,855 ninja professionals to rate the schools, so I have to wonder why the dropoff in included parties. Any person worth their weight in statistical salt knows that the greater your sample size the better the results.

There were no statistical methods used to determine this here. My guess is that they asked the 500 ninjas to look over the information that they had and give their ranking based on that information.

And maybe that’s good enough, but you can’t convince me that US News does that shit. And you know what, for all the years that Morehouse has been ranked #1 in Black Enterprise, we’ve been ranked like NON-EXISTENT over at US News.

Do you know what kind of shift you have to have in your examination of criteria to cause a school to actually lose 44 slots? That shit sounds like the school lost accrediation or something to me…and of course this all supposes that real stock is being placed in these rankings.

And you know what, people do. And people will. I just did a google search of Black Enterprises College Rankings for 2006 and all kinds of schools placed their ranking on their site. And hell, why not, if you win some shit, fuck it, run with it. Who cares if you didn’t even know if you were nominated.

Word to Michael Jackson.

This is undoubtedly big news in the HBCU community and will be cause for concern at Morehouse and to a lesser extent at Spelman and poor Clark…they just got fucked.

As my boy Maverick just said, “Like, are you seriously telling me that Clark is not one of the top 50 Black Colleges??? There are only 112…”

Indeed.

And half of them you haven’t even heard of before.

Even though I don’t put much stock into this, I did enjoy hearing about how Morehouse College ninjas thought they were the shit…

…oh wait, that won’t change, and we are.

You can tell a Morehouse Man, but you can’t tell him much.

And you can’t tell me that these rankings mean much of shit either. Like I said, they didn’t mean much when we were ranked #1 and they don’t mean much now. Sure, it was good for a little HBCU tension and pseudo-elitism. And yes, I’m sure quite a few folks are foaming at the mouth for the opportunity to put Morehouse on blast.

Then again, those are all the same folks who would tell me that they got a scholarship to go to Morehouse (or Spelman), but went to Tougaloo College instead because it was a better opportunity. And that’s no shot at Tougaloo, I’m just saying that we hear these things.

To anybody who went to another HBCU and wants to take shots at the King…please feel free. We probably deserve it.

However, it’s still Morehouse College.

Two words.

Enough said.

8 Responses to “Meet Me At The ‘House…It’s Going Down

  • 1
    Jen
    September 1st, 2006 16:57

    Dude well said, though I could have written this exact same entry, only shorter:

    Fuck that poll. Fuck all HBCU’s besides Morehouse and Spelman. And fuck you if you don’t agree. Resistance is futile you fucking creeps. Thank you, that is all.

  • 2
    wood
    September 2nd, 2006 02:00

    Your mind would probably be more at ease if you just accepted that fact that them rattlers run shit. Graduation rates were the biggest factor but not the only one. It took into account undergrad enrollment, social environment and other things in which dem rattlers had the market cornered. And for A&M to admitt students at twice the rate of the house and have a similar rate of graduation is a feat to be proud of. FAM gotdam U. Know that.
    Oh and if i didnt mention it, we were #1 in the rankings. Dont hate.

  • 3
    wood
    September 2nd, 2006 02:00

    Your mind would probably be more at ease if you just accepted that fact that them rattlers run shit. Graduation rates were the biggest factor but not the only one. It took into account undergrad enrollment, social environment and other things in which dem rattlers had the market cornered. And for A&M to admitt students at twice the rate of the house and have a similar rate of graduation is a feat to be proud of. FAM gotdam U. Know that.
    Oh and if i didnt mention it, we were #1 in the rankings. Dont hate.

  • 4
    Tombstone
    September 2nd, 2006 21:37

    Hey,
    I am a Tougaloo Alum, and I’m not the biggest fan of the school or the South true enough. But, as I like to tell people, I was one of 8 chemistry majors who graduated in 2004. Here is what we produced (let’s see the House match this): 1 dds/phd student, 1 md student, 1 law student, 1 phd/md student, 1 phd student, 1 pharmacy school student, 1 mother, and 1 student I have no clue where she is. We might not graduate alot, but 75% go on to do something, let’s see the house match that. *Side note, i’m the one in med school, and my two roomates are both from the house and in med school with me, and one still can’t understand the concept of washing his hands, flushing the toilet, and removing his spongebob squarepants boxers from the bathroom.

  • 5
    Panama
    September 5th, 2006 17:43

    @wood: I like FAMU. Good school. Might as well flaunt that #1 ranking for as long as you can. I ain’t even mad. doesn’t mean much of shit to me, like i said, it didnt mean much when Morehouse was “#1″. and umm…was this what you really meant:

    “And for A&M to admitt students at twice the rate of the house and have a similar rate of graduation is a feat to be proud of.”

    cuz uh…it really isn’t. our graduation rate is the problem pimpin’. and if you got the same rate, then you’re school has a problem too. trust me.

    @Tombstone: No dis or anything, but Morehouse could easily match that shit you came up with. Hell, my group of friends alone could easily match that. Not to say that those are accomplishments, in fact, good damn job. However, you ain’t exactly walking on the moon. But just to make sure you don’t think I’m lying…

    1: GRADUATED Ph.D. in Biomedical Engineering
    2: Master’s in Math Education/Current Ph.D. student in Psychometrics
    3: Master’s in Economics/Big shot something or other at AOL
    4: Master’s in Public Policy/Capitol Hill running a 30 billion dollar gov’t portfolio
    5: Harvard J.D. and current big shot ass lawyer in DC handling M&A

    I mean, that’s just an insular group of friends right there (and doesn’t even include the Spelman portion). Like, not to be an asshole…but…

    …it’s Morehouse.

    Of course we can match that. Don’t get it fucked up, just cuz we ain’t graduating niggas like some other schools doesn’t mean that the niggas graduating won’t be running the world and doling out jobs one day.

    Word to Dr. King, Julian Bond, Herman Cain, Samuel Jackson and every other big shot Morehouse alumni.

    So once again, good job and I hope you all make it do what it do…but umm…notice you’re kicking it with two Morehouse alumni pimpin’.

    Holla at every top shelf program or firm in this nation and see if there isn’t a Morehouse cat there.

    So yeah, we can match that.

    And umm…I make no apologies for niggas with no hometraining. Them niggas did graduate though!!!!

  • 6
    Tombstone
    September 6th, 2006 11:56

    Panama, you forgot the biggest point of my argument. Tougaloo will never put up as many numbers, hell our enrollment is at about 700 now. But, if you look at the percentages we blow any school out the water. I know more cats from Morehouse who will throw they lil’ hands above they head like the village people, and still living at home with mom, than I know girls w/ big butts in the South.

  • 7
    Panama
    September 6th, 2006 12:09

    @Tombstone: I did miss that part I suppose, but I think I actually answered it. I dont know what Morehouse folks you know, but most of the ones that I know that graduated from Morehouse seem to be pretty doggone well for themselves. Granted, everybody isn’t going to be the next CEO of some major corporation, but it seems like a large majority of the folks I run into from Morehouse are doing pretty damn alright. I’d match that 75 percent number, based on my own knowledge.

    And that’s the whole point I was going at…of the cats that GRADUATE, how many are doing pretty damn well?? Quite a few, which is the same argument I thought you were making.

    Just as an aside, in case Wood comes back through here and reads this, apparently FAMU has a lower graduation rate than Morehouse does which FURTHER proves the worthless ness of this ranking. They really are comparing apples to oranges if FAMU can be a better school with a lower graduation rate if graduation rate is indeed the biggest factor. And all of this is stated on Black Enterprises’s very website.

    Graduate a lot of folks bc of sheer size of your school and apparently that trumps the low graduation rate. Pure D Bullshit.

  • 8
    Graham
    September 10th, 2006 23:01

    It’s funny how everyone is talking about Morehouse,,, You know your the best when everyone compares themselves to you.

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