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		<title>By: The After Party Hostess</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/02/23/white-collar-black-man/#comment-2000</link>
		<dc:creator>The After Party Hostess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because you're educated, work with them, and get along, do a decent job when you aren't playing around on the innanets, you are one of the special few negros who has assimilated.  You're different until you try to date their daughters.  Gawd forbid they ever read your site.  They'll be pissed because they'd tucked you nicely into the not-so=threatening Black man category.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because you&#8217;re educated, work with them, and get along, do a decent job when you aren&#8217;t playing around on the innanets, you are one of the special few negros who has assimilated.  You&#8217;re different until you try to date their daughters.  Gawd forbid they ever read your site.  They&#8217;ll be pissed because they&#8217;d tucked you nicely into the not-so=threatening Black man category.</p>
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		<title>By: Honest</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/02/23/white-collar-black-man/#comment-1999</link>
		<dc:creator>Honest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone makes assumptions but worse of all is when your own parents make assumptions..

My non American dad thinks that RAP music is bad and all aobut b*tches and Hoes.  That Reggea music is there to brain wash you into smoking weed.  That middle eastern music is all Al Qaeda induced. This from an educated man.  My dad is close minded and unless it's latin or Haitian music he doesn't want to hear it.  Oh let me try and play any of my african music from the congo and he's up in arms and thinks their music isn't as good as Haitian music and that they're trying to copy.  he's such a retard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone makes assumptions but worse of all is when your own parents make assumptions..</p>
<p>My non American dad thinks that RAP music is bad and all aobut b*tches and Hoes.  That Reggea music is there to brain wash you into smoking weed.  That middle eastern music is all Al Qaeda induced. This from an educated man.  My dad is close minded and unless it&#8217;s latin or Haitian music he doesn&#8217;t want to hear it.  Oh let me try and play any of my african music from the congo and he&#8217;s up in arms and thinks their music isn&#8217;t as good as Haitian music and that they&#8217;re trying to copy.  he&#8217;s such a retard.</p>
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		<title>By: jluv1914</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/02/23/white-collar-black-man/#comment-1998</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that people‚Äôs analogy of rap has been flawed from the outset. I do not understand why people feel that rap should be positive.  It is what it is, entertainment.  It is not a roadmap for life.  If your kids are negativity influenced by rap you suck as a parent. Rap was made the scapegoat for a lack of personal responsibility.  Do I hate it when someone rolls up next to me booming Lil John? Yep.  Do I hate it when someone rolls up next to me with those loud a pipes on their 4X4? Yep.   Hell nobody complains about the Sopranos being violent and maybe its influence is why so many middle aged white men seem to make their wives disappear these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that people‚Äôs analogy of rap has been flawed from the outset. I do not understand why people feel that rap should be positive.  It is what it is, entertainment.  It is not a roadmap for life.  If your kids are negativity influenced by rap you suck as a parent. Rap was made the scapegoat for a lack of personal responsibility.  Do I hate it when someone rolls up next to me booming Lil John? Yep.  Do I hate it when someone rolls up next to me with those loud a pipes on their 4X4? Yep.   Hell nobody complains about the Sopranos being violent and maybe its influence is why so many middle aged white men seem to make their wives disappear these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Juli</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/02/23/white-collar-black-man/#comment-1997</link>
		<dc:creator>Juli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel you, and I pretty much agree. But it's the way people are..THUS, generalizations. You are a pretty enlightened dude. Most people aren't all that open minded. They think they know stuff, and they don't know ANYTHING. (me included)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel you, and I pretty much agree. But it&#8217;s the way people are..THUS, generalizations. You are a pretty enlightened dude. Most people aren&#8217;t all that open minded. They think they know stuff, and they don&#8217;t know ANYTHING. (me included)</p>
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		<title>By: Panama</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/02/23/white-collar-black-man/#comment-1996</link>
		<dc:creator>Panama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@T:  Maybe I misstated somethings because I don't really have beef with my co-worker, I just find it interesting he would make that connection.

"...cuz surely you know a lot of young Black folks feel the same way about rap 'music.' "

And those people are all lumped in with white people who make claims about something they know nothing about.  The black folks I know who feel that way about rap "music" as a whole, don't listen to it, yet feel free to make many assertions and assumptions.  Turn on MTV and assume the Ying Yang Twins represents the whole.  Some of you all do that...and you're opinions are baseless and moot to me.  As far as the filth that exists in rap...yes it does, however, if all you are referring to is the shit you see on TV then I can't accept what you are saying because it is not reflective of the whole.

***And for the record, I'm not saying that there isn't garbage out there.*** 

Which is the point of what I'm saying.  Exposure.  I'm not one of those folks who say that well if that's all you're exposed to then you're opinion is fine.  That's bullshit, especially if its underresearched and uninformed.  From what you've said before, I know that you listen to other rap.  So you must know that it exists, yet you want "your" people to outgrow this "crap".  Hell, what do you consider Outkast to be right now?  Is it rap or do you  have a convenient other name for it?

@ Juli:  The same thing goes there.  It's outrageous because he doesn't listen to rap.  At all.  My mother and her husband don't listen to rap.  Yet, they feel it's okay to say that it all sucks.  The same way I used to do with country until i started listening.  I dont make that statement anymore b/c it was unfair and totally based on baseless ideas.  That's the problem.  

I feel like we need to have a gotdamn rap symposium out here.  Is there negativity in rap.  yes, and there is negativity in society.  Rap has fucked up elements.  I speak out on that shit all the time.  However, I'm also pointing to the actual problem...not just talking about rap or hiphop culture as a whole.  

I just don't understand why anybody would think that because that's what you're exposed to, its okay to assume that's all there is, therefore you can say that all rap is bad.  I just don't get that.  Could be my idealistic views on life or something.  But if somebody were to say that to me and say, well that NWA is bad so everything else is, I'd pretend you had 8 legs and never listen to you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@T:  Maybe I misstated somethings because I don&#8217;t really have beef with my co-worker, I just find it interesting he would make that connection.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;cuz surely you know a lot of young Black folks feel the same way about rap &#8216;music.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>And those people are all lumped in with white people who make claims about something they know nothing about.  The black folks I know who feel that way about rap &#8220;music&#8221; as a whole, don&#8217;t listen to it, yet feel free to make many assertions and assumptions.  Turn on MTV and assume the Ying Yang Twins represents the whole.  Some of you all do that&#8230;and you&#8217;re opinions are baseless and moot to me.  As far as the filth that exists in rap&#8230;yes it does, however, if all you are referring to is the shit you see on TV then I can&#8217;t accept what you are saying because it is not reflective of the whole.</p>
<p>***And for the record, I&#8217;m not saying that there isn&#8217;t garbage out there.*** </p>
<p>Which is the point of what I&#8217;m saying.  Exposure.  I&#8217;m not one of those folks who say that well if that&#8217;s all you&#8217;re exposed to then you&#8217;re opinion is fine.  That&#8217;s bullshit, especially if its underresearched and uninformed.  From what you&#8217;ve said before, I know that you listen to other rap.  So you must know that it exists, yet you want &#8220;your&#8221; people to outgrow this &#8220;crap&#8221;.  Hell, what do you consider Outkast to be right now?  Is it rap or do you  have a convenient other name for it?</p>
<p>@ Juli:  The same thing goes there.  It&#8217;s outrageous because he doesn&#8217;t listen to rap.  At all.  My mother and her husband don&#8217;t listen to rap.  Yet, they feel it&#8217;s okay to say that it all sucks.  The same way I used to do with country until i started listening.  I dont make that statement anymore b/c it was unfair and totally based on baseless ideas.  That&#8217;s the problem.  </p>
<p>I feel like we need to have a gotdamn rap symposium out here.  Is there negativity in rap.  yes, and there is negativity in society.  Rap has fucked up elements.  I speak out on that shit all the time.  However, I&#8217;m also pointing to the actual problem&#8230;not just talking about rap or hiphop culture as a whole.  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand why anybody would think that because that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re exposed to, its okay to assume that&#8217;s all there is, therefore you can say that all rap is bad.  I just don&#8217;t get that.  Could be my idealistic views on life or something.  But if somebody were to say that to me and say, well that NWA is bad so everything else is, I&#8217;d pretend you had 8 legs and never listen to you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Juli</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/02/23/white-collar-black-man/#comment-1995</link>
		<dc:creator>Juli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't really understand why somebody generalizing rap to be negative music..is so outrageous. 

I listen to rap/hiphop/neo soul and all that.. I TEND TO FEEL that MODERN DAY RAP is shit. Not like THE SHIT, I mean shit, doggy doo doo, poo, not good, ungodly, materialistic, perverted, demeaning to black women, etc. 

Since rap has just gone more mainstream over the past 10yrs, most white people have only been exposed to gangsta rap in the 90's, and this bling bling bs they have had in the 2000's. I can understand WHERE they are getting these perceptions. 

As far as relating that to YOU because you are a black man that he thinks is okay..that is pretty retarded. I mean, that would be like you assuming he does not watch porn because he doesn't appear to be a pervert. Or that he doesn't watch movies with cursing because he does not curse. kinda DUMB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really understand why somebody generalizing rap to be negative music..is so outrageous. </p>
<p>I listen to rap/hiphop/neo soul and all that.. I TEND TO FEEL that MODERN DAY RAP is shit. Not like THE SHIT, I mean shit, doggy doo doo, poo, not good, ungodly, materialistic, perverted, demeaning to black women, etc. </p>
<p>Since rap has just gone more mainstream over the past 10yrs, most white people have only been exposed to gangsta rap in the 90&#8217;s, and this bling bling bs they have had in the 2000&#8217;s. I can understand WHERE they are getting these perceptions. </p>
<p>As far as relating that to YOU because you are a black man that he thinks is okay..that is pretty retarded. I mean, that would be like you assuming he does not watch porn because he doesn&#8217;t appear to be a pervert. Or that he doesn&#8217;t watch movies with cursing because he does not curse. kinda DUMB.</p>
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		<title>By: johnny kwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny kwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>killa, 

you know me, and you know i used to subscribe to this absurd notion that by projecting my "smarts" to white folk, i could help 'em unpack some of their perceptions of young black dudes.  it doesn't happen...it didn't really take me that long to figure it out either, but i thought i was fighting the good fight.  

i don't really have any profound statements to make about race relations, but in my opinion, simplifying the problem by relegating it to merely "human nature" underscores the bigger problem that we all have of accepting such ignorance, by others and by ourselves, merely b/c it's commonplace.  i guess i feel that we have to continue takin' folks to task but rememberin' to check our own shit at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>killa, </p>
<p>you know me, and you know i used to subscribe to this absurd notion that by projecting my &#8220;smarts&#8221; to white folk, i could help &#8216;em unpack some of their perceptions of young black dudes.  it doesn&#8217;t happen&#8230;it didn&#8217;t really take me that long to figure it out either, but i thought i was fighting the good fight.  </p>
<p>i don&#8217;t really have any profound statements to make about race relations, but in my opinion, simplifying the problem by relegating it to merely &#8220;human nature&#8221; underscores the bigger problem that we all have of accepting such ignorance, by others and by ourselves, merely b/c it&#8217;s commonplace.  i guess i feel that we have to continue takin&#8217; folks to task but rememberin&#8217; to check our own shit at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: builtfromwax</title>
		<link>http://jacksongtickle.com/2006/02/23/white-collar-black-man/#comment-1993</link>
		<dc:creator>builtfromwax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>co-worker logic:

Panama is black...
if Panama works with me, then Panama can read; still, he's black...

Rap music is negative...
if black people listen to rap music, then black people are negative...

Panama, although black, is not negative, therefore he does not listen to rap music...

"Don't be a groupie keep it movin' shawty, cuz uon't know me..." Clifford Smith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>co-worker logic:</p>
<p>Panama is black&#8230;<br />
if Panama works with me, then Panama can read; still, he&#8217;s black&#8230;</p>
<p>Rap music is negative&#8230;<br />
if black people listen to rap music, then black people are negative&#8230;</p>
<p>Panama, although black, is not negative, therefore he does not listen to rap music&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t be a groupie keep it movin&#8217; shawty, cuz uon&#8217;t know me&#8230;&#8221; Clifford Smith</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the previous commenter...tis human nature to "assume."  Maybe it's not right, but it is what it is.  And honestly I don't really understand your beef with your co-worker.  And beyond that, I think it's disingenuous for you to reduce how your co-worker feels to "White" or "older" people...cuz surely you know a lot of young Black folks feel the same way about rap "music."  To deny that a lot of it really IS "just downright flith-flarn-filth, through and through" just makes a lot of otherwise smart people (like yourself) lose much credibility.  Personally, I can't wait for the day "my" people outgrow that crap.  Disclaimer (cuz I've learned my lesson, lol) Not ALL rap is negative.  

Feliz Jueves!

T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the previous commenter&#8230;tis human nature to &#8220;assume.&#8221;  Maybe it&#8217;s not right, but it is what it is.  And honestly I don&#8217;t really understand your beef with your co-worker.  And beyond that, I think it&#8217;s disingenuous for you to reduce how your co-worker feels to &#8220;White&#8221; or &#8220;older&#8221; people&#8230;cuz surely you know a lot of young Black folks feel the same way about rap &#8220;music.&#8221;  To deny that a lot of it really IS &#8220;just downright flith-flarn-filth, through and through&#8221; just makes a lot of otherwise smart people (like yourself) lose much credibility.  Personally, I can&#8217;t wait for the day &#8220;my&#8221; people outgrow that crap.  Disclaimer (cuz I&#8217;ve learned my lesson, lol) Not ALL rap is negative.  </p>
<p>Feliz Jueves!</p>
<p>T</p>
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		<title>By: Bulletproof Diva</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it's funny how other people's perceptions can be so off base. They project their own ideas, but I do it too.  Human nature I guess.

I live in these expensive ass condos and there is a crunchy granola chick that smokes weed. I HATE that she is on my floor because I think they will assume it's me. LOL...ain't that jacked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s funny how other people&#8217;s perceptions can be so off base. They project their own ideas, but I do it too.  Human nature I guess.</p>
<p>I live in these expensive ass condos and there is a crunchy granola chick that smokes weed. I HATE that she is on my floor because I think they will assume it&#8217;s me. LOL&#8230;ain&#8217;t that jacked!</p>
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