Jackson G. Tickle Enterprises Presents: Friday The 16th…This Is The Remake!

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This is how a simple question can turn into a 2 hour argument and then turn into a question to be posed to the masses en route to becoming something worthy of hours of hot fun in the summertime…or not.

Saturday, December 10, 2005, approximately 730pm, somewhere in an apartment in Northeast Washington, DC

Ponderous Panama: Yo, you know Xscape’s song, “Who Can I Run To?”, is that a remake?

Builtfromwax: Yeah, by the Jones Girls.

*going to CD stacks to pull CD out of stacks…that he went to*

PP: Hmm…is it better than the Xscape version? Cuz Xscape staright murdered that track dog. Them girls can sing. I love their version.

Builtfromwax: We can listen to it. But I think the Jones Girls might have them.

*listening to Jones Girls CD that was pulled from the stacks that he went to after the question was asked that propelled the journey to the stacks for which the Jones Girls was pulled from…I could really do this all day*

PP: Dude, Xscape’s version is better.

B: I don’t know man…I like the Jones Girls.

PP: You know, folks always say that the original songs are better, but for real, sometimes the remakes are better…

That conversation you just witnessed, or didn’t witness, spawned a debate about whether or not people do justice to remakes or not. I know a lot of people who will swear up and down that remakes are never better than the original. The problem is that a lot of people are just damn wrong. The fact that something came first does not make it better…it makes it first.

After a roughly 2 hour debate, it was surmised that, potentially, this could make for a question to pose to the Negroes (and white folks and Hispanics and virtually any other ethnic group that doth transcendeth upon the site controlled by the good folks at Jackson G. Tickle Enterprises…that’d be me…Panama “Oh So Sexxy” Jackson) to get the general public’s take. Being as many people who venture to these fine digs are themselves music lovers and probably music snobs…

[***DISCLAIMER: *sigh* You fuckers know that you're music snobs. You can read and pretend that you don't watch BET. I'm a music snob at times. Amazing isn't it, coming from the guy who recommended both Ray J and Omarion albums? However, don't be acting like you all open-minded and shit...if you're a snob, claim your shit. Also, if you have any beef with the fact that I'm making a blanket statement and assuming that you reading muhfuckas are snobs, well, kiss my ass, go play in traffic on a Wednesday in any major city between 4 and 6pm...and die. Thank you. ***]

…I’d assume that many folks think the original of any song is better than the remake. I suspect that people might even say that Bobby Womack’s version of “If You Think You’re Lonely Now” is better than K-Ci of Jodeci’s remake version from the Jason’s Lyric soundtrack.

And you’d be wrong.

No really…I mean it. From the bottom of my heart.

Oh suck it up.

So with that in mind, the question being posed to you wonderfully splendiferous readers of this here scholarly scrollesque engravatious journalistic diary-etic (as opposed to a diaretic) blog is…

…are the original versions of songs always better than the remakes? Is there some default law that states this to be true?

Today, we will answer this question. I (with the help of my man hunnid grand, Builtfromwax) have chosen 6 (count ‘em 6) songs that have been remade and remade well. However, the question is whether or not they managed to do a better job or not than the folks who crafted the original.

Believe you me, this is a social science experiment that could have reverberations for eons to come. Or at least until next week when I head to Michigan for my Christmas vacation.

The radio blog (over there to the right under the WJGT Radio header) will feature the originals and the remakes for your aural, or if you don’t know what aural means, listening, pleasure.

[***EDIT (as of 924am): Umm...you know that saying, last night a DJ saved my life?? Well that DJ definitely wouldn't have been Panama Jackson. Somehow...somehow...I managed to put Mary's "My Life" on the radio blog instead of "I'm Going Down". Oops??!?!!! Also, apparently the electric powers that be rejected the assertion that Trina Broussard could even think about comparing to Minnie Riperton...resulting in what has become a total acid sounding 2 second clip of nothing. Thank you...I will correct this later. THIS is why you must proofread and proof-upload shit kiddies...oops, indeed. ***]

You ever notice how using short sentences and signifying them as paragraphs makes entries seem shorter?

No?

Hmm…just a thought.

Anyway, onto the comparisons…are you ready? Let’s begin shall we? Yes…we shall.

Jackson G. Tickle Ent. Presents-I Invented The Remake…But Really Didn’t At All

Round 1: “Who Can I Run To?” - The Jones Girls Vs. Xscape

You know, I like the Jones Girls, I really do, but to me, Xscape just sings their asses off on this version and besides, the leading chick in Xscape (the big one) outsings the leading chick in the Jones Girls (whoever the hell she may be). This is a favorite of mine. The Jones Girls do their thing and all, but Jermaine Dupri knows how to pick talent…at least leading talent anyway. Did the light skinneded girl ever actually sing? Tiny is her name by the way. By the way…has anybody SEEN the Jones Girls lately? No…that really is a question, I really want to know if anybody even knows if their alive. By the way, don’t you love how I used “by the way” back to back in one of those prior two sentences? You know, where I saidy by the way…then by the way? Wasn’t that hot? Aren’t I sexxy? Why so many questions? Do I even know? Do you know where you’re running to? Do you know the things that life is showing you?

Just questions…

What? Can a brotha ask questions?

Picks: Panama-Xscape Builtfromwax-The Jones Girls

By the way…anybody who goes against what I pick is essentially wrong. Just thought I’d share.

I don’t really mean that.

Mazel Tov!

Round 2: “I’m Going Down”- Rose Royce vs. Mary J. Blige

Umm…to me this is plain to see, you can’t change me, cuz I’mma be a nigga for life. Sorry, just had an NWA flashback. As far as I’m concerned, this really isn’t any competition. You can feel Mary’s emotion on this song. Hell, K-Ci probably beat her ass AND stole her cocaine right before she sang this song, which is why you just feel her pain…despite the shittiest video this side of Warren G’s “Get U Down” video. I love Rose Royce and Gwen Dickey (who was singing lead at that time) got her grizzly on, especially on other songs from the Car Wash soundtrack (which is where this song came from), but she’s no match for Mary. Listen for yourself…

Picks: Panama -Mary J. Blige Builtfrowax-Rose Royce

And no, I have no idea what he (with he being Builtfromwax) was thinking with that pick.

Round 3: Lately”- Jodeci vs. Stevie Wonder

Oh boy…here’s where it gets tricky because you know, there are people out there who really think Stevie Wonder can sing. Now see, I applaud the musical genius that he is…we are going to be hardpressed to find another man as great at songwriting and music masterpiecing as Stevie…however, he is not a good singer. Period. K-Ci and JoJo’s version, was live, so you know they had to put their foot in it. I tend to think that folks would just feel guilty for saying that anybody actually outshined Stevie, on a Stevie song. And for that reason….

…I’ll say it. I like Jodeci’s better. Fuck it. Builtfrom wax picked Stevie Wonder here…I can’t be mad though, I figure most people will.

And yes, I abandoned the way I was laying out picks. Sue me.

Actually don’t sue me, I have no money.

Round 4: “Cruisin’” -Smokey Robinson vs. D’Angelo

You know, I do not like Green Eggs and Ham and I do not like Smokey Robinson. I never have. It is for that reason I pick D’Angelo off of GP. I mean did you hear how fuckin’ horribly Smokey sounded singing that craptastic ass song at the end of The Temptations Movie? Shit sounded like monkies fucking in ass buckets. However, I know a lot of people really like Smokey Robinson and he is one of the architects of Motown…however, this is about the damn song, and for my money, give me D’Angelo every time. Builtfromwax agrees…D’Angelo all the way.

America…fuck yeah.

Round 5: “Inside My Love” -Minnie Riperton Vs. Trina Broussard (off the Love Jones soundtrack)

You know, let me tell you how this one played out. So we’re listening to Trina Broussard sing. Loving it actually. In fact, she did a damn good job. I was ready to say she did it justice and it might be as good as Minnie Ripperton’s version. That was until we listened to Minnie’s version. After that first 85th octave note, it was no contest. Minnie’s voice has no equal save Mariah Carey. She could hold those notes too. Man, I just wanted to hug her. Too bad she died a long time ago. Therefore, it is altogether impossible, to say Trina’s version is better. I do not want to hug Trina and haven’t listened to her version since. Minnie it is. We both agreed.

Round 6: Sadie” - The Sprewells AKA The Spinners vs. El Pervo Loco AKA R. Kelly

As much as Ilike R. Kelly (in the words of Huey from The Boondocks, “I think you’re underestimating how much niggas love R. Kelly”…nigga=Panama), and as much as he be singing his ass off, I just really like the Spinners version. It just has that real soulful feel to it. Don’t get me wrong, I can understand how folks could say that R. Kelly’s version is better, notwithstanding the fact that his mother’s name isn’t Sadie. You know…it’s amazing, no matter the discussion about music R. Kelly’s evil genius ass name will always come up. He’s one of the few folks that I’d trust with a remake to do it the proper justice and do it better. And on pretty much any other song, I’d agree, I just like the Spinners version better.

We both agreed on The Spinners.

***BONUS ROUND****

(Really, what makes it a bonus round? Isn’t it just Round 7?? I’m with you, except I’m the one doing it…and I’m sexxier than you. Love me.)

Round 7: “Can You Stand The Rain?” -New Edition Vs. Boyz II Men

How many of you have actually heard Boyz II Men’s version? Not many I presume, my dear Watson. However, Boyz II Men’s remake of this song is so ridiculously good that I’m willing to say its better than one of my favorite songs of all times from one of my favorite groups of all time. Do you realize that the only two people who could actually sing sing in New Edition were Ricky and Johnny? And if you say Ralph could sing you should drink some Berillium and smoke a cyanide laced donkey tail. Builtfromwax hasn’t heard this, but I’m saying Boyz II Men’s version is better. Painful I know…but true nonetheless.

There you have it. I’m making the call that the original versions of many songs just isn’t as good as the remade versions. But I need your help to figure out if this is true or not. Join me in the comments as we duke it out, mano y mano, friend versus foe, Mamas vs. Papas, Sly versus The Family Stone, Bootsy Collins versus The Rubber Band, etc. You see where I’m going with this.

Are originals better??? You be the judge.

And for your cooperation, I’m adding this video clip of one of the funniest damn renditions of Destiny’s Child “Soldier” you’ll ever see. Make sure you watch this with the volume turned down. It’s gangsta like that. And…

You. Are. Not. Ready.

20 Responses to “Jackson G. Tickle Enterprises Presents: Friday The 16th…This Is The Remake!

  • 1
    Erika
    December 16th, 2005 00:48

    I definitely agree that their are actually a lot of remakes/covers that have either done justice to the original or are so good that you forget it wasn’t the original version. I think it’s hilarious, especially with hip-hop music, how people get all bent out of shape like remaking a song is some new phenomenon. The music industry has been doing it for decades. Here are some of the more famous examples: Respect (original Otis Redding, remake Aretha Franklin); All Along the Watchtower (original Bob Dylan, remake Jimi Hendrix); I Heard It Through the Grapevine (original Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, remake Gladys Knight and the Pips, even better remake Marvin Gaye); Proud Mary (original Creedence Clearwater Revival, remake Ike and Tina Turner); Somewhere Over the Rainbow (original Judy Garland, remake Patti LaBelle and the Blue Bells - If you haven’t heard this one, you should check it out. Patti kills it.); Nothing Compares 2 U (original Prince, remake Sinead O’Connor); I Will Always Love You (original Dolly Parton, remake Whitney Houston). The list goes on and on… By the way, Boyz II Men’s version of Can You Stand the Rain is hands down better than New Edition’s.

  • 2
    Erika
    December 16th, 2005 01:11

    Ooops! I forgot to mention Superstar, which I think was originally recorded by Bette Midler but made famous by The Carpenters. Actually, I think Karen Carpenter’s voice is beautiful, but Luther Vandross made that song his.

  • 3
    builtfromwax
    December 16th, 2005 01:21

    hmmm…

    uh….

    me thinks the DJ on this one should be F I R E D!!!

    as of this posting, how the hell does Rose Royce’s “I’m Goin’ Down” compare to Mary J. Blige’s “My Life”?

    come again selecta! R E W I N D!!!

  • 4
    Monk
    December 16th, 2005 09:00

    If Xscape, Mary J, Jodeci, and D’Angelo recorded these songs in the good state of California, they should die by lethal injection for the way they MURDERED them joints!! The originals were great BUT their remakes…THE SHIT!! I’m not familiar with the Minnie’s version but I LOVE Trina’s voice…I know Minnie probably killed her though. The Spinners and R.Kellz match up would be a tie in my opinion. And I haven’t heard Boyz II Men version, but I’ve never been a fan, so N.E. would get my vote by default.

  • 5
    Tara
    December 16th, 2005 10:19

    That was the funniest clip I’ve seen in a while….where do you find these things???

  • 6
    Tara
    December 16th, 2005 10:29

    I have to say….I like the Xscape version better. The lead just has a stronger voice. (And did you know that one named “Tiny” is kicking it with TI? Isn’t she like 40? She was like 25 when Xscape first came out???)

    And there is no comparison between MJB and Rose Royce. With Rose Royce, it’s just a song. With MJB, that was HER LIFE. You could feel that pain.

  • 7
    Donna
    December 16th, 2005 11:24

    Round 1 XScape, hands down!

    Round 2 Chick in the Rolls Royce version of I’m Going Down is actually crying and shit! I say tie!

    Round 3 Damn, Panama, you really hatin on the old school. Stevie isn’t the best singer…but he sounds honest and accepting in his version, it’s sounds like a conversation, listen to it again. K-Ci sounds like a screaming fool in his version of Lately. That song isn’t a desperate plea type song!

    Round 4 D’Angelo sounds sexier than Smokey…I’m not a big Smokey fan as a singer, but he can write his ass off

    Round 5 Trina Boussard sounds way sexier in her version…another Jermaine Dupri spawn.

    Round 6 The Spinners because they sound more wholesome than Kells (plus isn’t his version right before or after Sex Me Part 1, that’s not a good look)

  • 8
    Khalli-Vegas
    December 16th, 2005 11:51

    I think a lot of remakes to more than cover the orginal but I think time and era goes into that as well, Lot of folks depending on age and if the orginial was the first track they were introduced to, for a lot of new listeners they haven’t heard the orginal Jones Girls let alone Rolls Royce in most cases so they tend to side with the artist they are most familar with believing that arrangement is a better rendition of the song. Take a look for a second at sports Emmitt Smith surpassed all rushing yards for all backs but ask around to who the greatest is and most will pick a back they watched or have more connection with for me Walter Payton.

  • 9
    Wise Diva
    December 16th, 2005 13:06

    I love Mary, but Royce can’t be touched, no way no how.. put the pipe down!

  • 10
    Misty the Almighty
    December 16th, 2005 15:27

    Straight to the point:

    Round 1: Xscape.
    Round 2: Rose Royce.
    Round 3: Jodeci (only because I like Jo-jo’s sangin’ otherwise Stevie would’ve won).
    Round 4: D’Angelo.
    Round 5: Minnie Ripperton.
    Bonus: The Spinners.

    Thus sayeth Her Imperial Majesty.

  • 11
    Creem
    December 16th, 2005 15:53

    Wow Panama!

    You Amaze me, i thought i was the only one on this planet that liked that song by Trina Broussard. I used to play it to death. and hands down, shes the winner. I love the instruments on that song too.

    but i have to agree with all of your selections except can u stand the rain, NO ONE can out do Johnny. His and Ralph’s voices are the only two that i remember on that song.

    And i dont like Smokey either, he scares me.
    and ROFL on EL PERVO LOCO HAHA classic*

  • 12
    imacdiva
    December 16th, 2005 19:50

    “Giving him something he can feel” Envogue or Aretha Franklin
    “Work to do” Isleys, Average White Band or Vanessa Williams
    “I feel for you” Chaka Khan or Prince
    “Closer” Nine Inch Nails or Maxwell

    It just don’t stop…

    My vote:
    Xscape
    Rose Royce
    Stevie (cause I don’t want to burn in hell…)
    D’Angelo
    Minnie
    Spinners.

  • 13
    Deah
    December 17th, 2005 14:20

    It’s funny, I heard the Jones Girls version on the radio just the other day. Xscape’s was much better imo. If Minnie had Trina’s production, this wouldn’t even be close… but she still eeks it out.

    My votes:
    Xscape
    Mary
    Stevie (though I still love the other version)
    D’Angelo
    Minnie
    Spinners

  • 14
    Deah
    December 17th, 2005 14:32

    Ohh, ohhh, ohhhhhhhhhhh
    I hadn’t heard B-II-M’s version of Can You Stand the Rain… this song is sexxxy!!! Damn

    Wow.

    I’ve slept.

    Wow.

    What album is this on??

  • 15
    Jaine Blaize
    December 19th, 2005 06:58

    Oh boy! You done did it now! Sometimes remakes are just not kewl. When? When the original was done by someone with soul and the remake is done by someone who wishes they had soul. Granted, I love Michael McDonald but he really didn’t need to try to remake Marvin Gaye’s “I Want You”. *Shaking head fervently* - nope, shouldn’t have done it.

    As for people who can remake a song and make you forget that there really was an original, what about when Anita Baker’s remake of “You Belong To Me” by Carly Simon? Or Howard Hewitt covering the Eagles’ ” I Can’t Tell You Why?”

    They just slaughtered the originators!!!! So it can be done!

  • 16
    Panama
    December 19th, 2005 10:30

    @Deah: I have no idea what album that’s on. Back in the Great Internet Downloading Era of 99-2001, I found that online somewhere and I loved it so much I just downloaded it and put it on a CD. I have no idea what album it comes from or where you can find it. I just got it on a bootleg CD.

  • 17
    dee
    December 19th, 2005 19:08

    round 1:xscape.hands down!!!! They SANG it like it was theirs!!!

    round 2:even though he beat her ass and stole her coke(mary’s) Roll Royce!!!! You feel it!!!

    round 3:Stevie cause he’s stevie!!!!

    round 4:I don’t care much for the song……..smokey I guess!!!

    round 5:Minnie is the SHIT!!!

    round 6:Sadie…I have to go with the original….it just sounds better!!!! Once it got all R.Kellyed. it just didn’t do it for me!!!!

    round 7:I need to hear the boys to men version!!!

  • 18
    vagitis
    December 19th, 2005 23:59

    gotta disagree with the Stevie comment. Stevie can sing, Lately wasn’t one of his better vocal performances granted, but the man has a great voice.
    Jodeci’s version was the shit, though.

  • 19
    Ori
    December 20th, 2005 11:03

    Okay, I agree with the majority of those, except “Lately” and “Sadie.” The Spinners really made me want to call my mama. The Trina Broussard song is the hit, though. I saw her sing it live at jazz festival once, and I swear I nearly fell in love with the guy standing next to me when she sang that song! And I really liked Erikah Badu’s remake of Chaka Khan’s “Stay.”

  • 20
    Xquizzyt1
    December 20th, 2005 12:27

    OMG… I’m so disappointed in this post that I might cry.

    There was a comedian that did a whole sketch on “The Bureau of Remaking Songs,” or something and he was the receptionist… he kept saying “The Bureau… please hold” and when Mary J. Blige called he hung up on her and took the next call. ROFLMAO

    I totally agree.

    Mary cannot sing. And no one should ever confuse her raspy warblings with singing… which is why everyone liked her better when she sang about pain. Because then her screeching, banchee-like shrills made sense. When you sound like that and you say you’re “happy?” Wow. Then you lose me.

    I don’t have a problem with remakes done by peers, like Boys II Men and New Edition, or like when The Main Ingredient and Blue Magic did “Just Don’t Want to Be Lonely” or when Gladys Knight and Marvin Gaye with “Heard it Through the Grapevine,” see, they are peers and I can deal with those remakes and I think those are cool to compare. But to compare Aaliyah and the Isley Brothers? I mean… why? LOL There’s no comparison. To compare K-Ci and fucking Jo Jo to Stevie??? OMG why? There is JUST no comparison. *sigh* And the Jones Girls ripped “Who Can I Run to” you will NOT compare those grown ass women to damn Xscape. *sigh* Like Rose Royce tore up “Love Don’t Live Here Anymore,” and then Faith and Mary made it sound like nails on a chalkboard. *sigh* If you are a legend, then remakes should ONLY be done by peers, never your subordinates. [UNLESS and ONLY UNLESS that subordinate was Luther Vandross. *sigh* Luther.] If they are, the two should never be COMPARED to each other… only listened to in order to say, “Oh, Ciara remade Aretha Franklin’s “I Never Loved a Man” and dedicated it to Bow Wow? Interesting.” *sigh* Remakes… the bane of my existence.

    The end. Thank you.

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